Poilievre says Conservatives ‘wiped out’ Quebec separatism, despite PQ’s win in 2012


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The Bloc Québécois is taking issue with Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s claim that support for Quebec separatism was “wiped out” under Stephen Harper’s government.

The Conservative leader insists separatist sentiment in both Alberta and Quebec is being driven by the Liberals and their policies. On Monday, he told reporters support for separation “was zero” when Harper was in power between 2006 and 2015.

“Under Stephen Harper, the separatist movement was wiped out. The Parti Québécois and the Bloc Québécois were on their last leg,” he said.

Bloc Québécois House leader Christine Normandin pointed out that Quebec elected a minority Parti Québécois government in 2012.

“I couldn’t agree less with [Poilievre’s] statement,” she said in an interview.

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper, left, and Quebec Premier Pauline Marois walk into an event in February 2013. Marois’s Parti Québécois won power the previous September. (Jacques Boissinot/The Canadian Press)

The PQ lost power to the provincial Liberals in 2014 and then pledged in the 2018 election campaign not to hold a referendum on sovereignty for at least four years. The PQ then suffered a historic defeat and lost official party status when the Coalition Avenir Québec took power in 2018.

In 2006, the Bloc introduced a motion in the House of Commons calling on MPs to recognize Quebecers as a nation. Harper replied with a motion of his own that recognized the “Quebecois form a nation within a united Canada.” The motion received overwhelming support from MPs of all parties.

The Bloc lost official party status after the 2011 federal election, dropping 43 seats as the NDP swept through Quebec in the “orange wave.”

Compared to the ups and downs of sovereignist parties, polls show that support for sovereignty among Quebecers remained relatively stable.

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Leger released a poll last month that tracks 15 years of support for Quebec sovereignty. Over that time, the percentage of people who said they would vote yes to separating from Canada hovered between 29 per cent and 45 per cent.

That 45 per cent peak was reached the year of the PQ win in 2012. The low was recorded in March of this year.

Normandin said the sovereignty movement in Quebec is stable because it is not “in reaction” to what’s happening in Ottawa.

“It’s based on the fact that Quebec has a different language, a different culture, the fact it is a nation,” she said.

“That will not change, notwithstanding what colour the government in Ottawa is.”

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There has been talk of growing support for separatism in Quebec over the last 18 months after the Parti Québécois surged in the polls as the electorate turned against former premier François Legault and his Coalition Avenir Québec.

The PQ has pledged that if it wins the election in October, it will hold a referendum on separation within its mandate. And while Leger’s May poll suggests the party holds a slim two-point lead over the provincial Liberals, the poll put support for secession at 35 per cent in April and 32 per cent in May.

The online poll surveyed 1,027 voting-age Quebecers between May 15 and 18. Leger did not provide a margin of error but said that for comparison purposes, surveys with this sample size would have a margin of error of 3.06 per cent, 19 times out of 20.

Separatist sentiment has been rising in Alberta, where Premier Danielle Smith has scheduled a referendum in October that will ask whether Albertans want to hold a “binding referendum” on separation from Canada or if they want the province to remain part of the country.

Poilievre said that is a direct result of “divide-and-conquer, centralist Liberal government that seeks to control everything in Ottawa.” He noted that all referendums to separate from Canada have happened under federal Liberal governments.

Normandin said she thinks Poilievre is trying to dodge thorny questions about what would constitute a “clear majority” in an Alberta separation referendum.

“Either he doesn’t really have a good understanding of Quebec or he really was trying to change the topic of the conversation with such a bold but false statement,” she said.

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Clarity Act won’t apply to Alberta’s referendum question, Carney says

On Tuesday, Prime Minister Mark Carney confirmed that the Clarity Act — which allows Parliament to weigh in on a province’s proposed separation question — won’t apply to Alberta’s referendum question on whether to hold a future vote on separation, ‘because it is a question about a question’ and ‘it is explicit in the question that it’s not a binding referendum.’

Prime Minister Mark Carney drew the ire of Quebec provincial politicians and the Bloc last week when, citing the Clarity Act, he said that any secession referendum would need more than 50-per-cent-plus-one support to be considered valid.

That legislation, which was passed in the aftermath of the 1995 Quebec referendum and the 1998 Supreme Court ruling on separation, gives the House of Commons the power to decide whether a proposed referendum question on separation is clear and whether a clear majority voted in favour of it.

The Bloc said Tuesday it would put forward a bill in the House of Commons to repeal the Clarity Act.

Reporters asked Poilievre repeatedly on Tuesday about the Clarity Act and the Bloc’s proposed bill. He did not answer.



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