Welcome to Second Life, a podcast spotlighting successful women who’ve made major career changes—and fearlessly mastered the pivot. Hosted by Hillary Kerr, cofounder and chief content officer at Who What Wear, each episode gives you a direct line to women who are game changers in their fields. Subscribe to Second Life on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts to stay tuned.

If you’re into the latest handbag trends, you likely know Parker Thatch. At the helm of the wildly popular handbag brand, which has achieved success through its intentionally designed products, is cofounder Irene Chen. Before designing some of fashion’s favorite bags, she actually began her professional career in financial consulting.